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I wouldn’t say obvious, no. It’s what I observe, yes. But I have some doubt about my observations scaling up to a valid statistics. Lots of folks out there are not techies yet do care about the environment. I can’t see them caring much about grapheneOS, but maybe I’m wrong.

This only works short and medium term. Long term benefits have very little traction.

I think there will be a rebalancing, and it might painful first for some. Confidence in LLM for highly complex tasks, very lots of context, most of all when this context isn’t in a single place or simply isn’t digitalised, will go down.

But right now, it’s still the shiny new toy


I use state of the art frontier coding agents daily. While the fact they can code at all is a huge achievement, it's hard for to me to buy in to the looming AGI/2027 collapse scenario when they remain stymied by the simplest out of sample tasks and sabotage their own work frequently. But the blooming ignorance of everyone addicted to them is striking. These things are tools, used correctly they can do some amazing things, but going Tim the Toolman with them goes poorly.

Yeah but then make everything matte. No?

Why? Only the side with the crease needs to be matte in order to have the intended effect

it’s not rational, but having a glossy and mate screen on the same device would feel weird to me I think.

Everyone is unique, even if average. They 100% can fingerprint anyone.

Especially once you interact with a site. Who types, clicks, or swipes just like you?

I kept an iPhone Mini until an App I need for work started consuming so much memory it became unusable on it (iOS would kill it after 15s). Even then, I raised ticket after ticket with support to get them to fix their app – which they did, then slipped again, for months.

Now I own a 17 pro, which feels like a brick in comparison but has 12 GB of RAM instead of 4.

I really miss my mini.


Fun fact: The iPhone Duo‘s outer display is 5.4 inch, just like the iPhone mini. Ok, with different proportions.

And different price tag

You could have bought an Air and been closer to your Mini than the Pro is...

interesting, I didn’t notice it also hat 1TB storage and 12GB RAM. But the size is maginally smaller only. Still, I agree, would probably have been a better fit.

You're just proving the point of this thread by pining for a niche phone that almost no one wanted enough to actually own.

You think this big clunky thing isn’t going to be a niche at $2000?

Suburban wives will have it in droves

I’m buying it just to flex on everyone whose phones cost merely $1000

But have you got the I Am Rich app, the apotheosis of conspicuous consumption?

Without that you are nothing.


Enough people can (and already do) spend that, especially if this replaces an iPad for them.

A huge number of people get smart devices from their employers for free, and $1,200 for a regular iPhone vs. $2,000 for a Duo is a rounding error.


Does Anthropic, Grok, etc. log their training data? I had the impression it was rather a mess.

Yes. Pretty much all the models that don't suck are trained on user data, either directly or via derived synthetic data.

Many upstart Chinese labs got around the user data issue by just buying copious amounts of Claude and ChatGPT session logs from model routers.


But I was asking about _logging_ training data, I don’t understand how your answer relates to my question. Maybe I’m being obtuse.

I don’t think their pitch is being the cheapest or frontier.

Sovereign, data privacy, these are their strengths. Or even being not US and not Chinese; this is in itself an advantage nowadays. (Which is crazy)


Ah, interesting I always thought USA’s GDP far ahead, but it’s not. Compared to EU it’s 20 vs. 30 trillions/y. Adding Switzerland, UK, etc. and it’s close.

PPP the EU is also about 30 trillions, which is probably the better measure since we're comparing production for domestic purposes.

Yes but why? Outlets pushing Angst?

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