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Garbage on beaches is by definition not garbage in the "patches." If you are picking up plastic with your bare hands, you're not picking up the microplastics which even Moore now describes as the problem with the garbage patches. At best you can say that plastic chunks you pick up are hopefully not going to end up as microplastic bits in the gyres.

"[for a week] plastic debris was floating everywhere: bottles, bottle caps, wrappers, fragments" -- Moore, 1998(?)

vs.

"It was and is a thin plastic soup, a soup lightly seasoned with plastic flakes, bulked out here and there with “dumplings”: buoys, net clumps, floats, crates, and other “macro debris.”" -- Moore 2011, in the slate article above

And regarding the "plastic soup", every eye witness account I've found except Moore's say it's visually just ocean water, and occasionally you find a chunk of junk. (e.g., https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sea-unworthy-a-pe...) Another research group cited in the Slate article decided to phrase it as "plastic smog" rather than soup.

When I've found videos or pictures claiming to be from the garbage patch, they're either of garbage-clogged harbors, or of an item or tangle of debris surrounded by clear blue waters, or as you describe, beaches with garbage. Do you have other pictures?

Where Moore has historically over-sensationalized his descriptions, I find I take his sensational descriptions with a grain of salt.

This isn't to say plastic in the oceans isn't a concern, or isn't something we should work really hard to avoid, just that sensational claims, along with sensational estimates need critical examination, rather than simple acceptance.

"Bigger than Mexico!" What does that even mean? An area the size of Mexico has detectable bits of plastic? What's the density threshold that defines the area? And they made this size estimate based on a single traversal? This suggests the size estimate is based more on the area of currents rather than measurement of the particulate density.

If you have better documentation of the area claim or densities than was given or linked from R-ing-TFA above, I'd love to see it. Something more along the lines of that 2011 study you glibly dismiss: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234157160_Plastic_p...



Why does the density matter since any plastic in the ocean will eventually get broken down to smaller pieces by the salt water?


The density is the amount of plastic in an area or volume of water, rather than the density of a particular piece of plastic.

It's the difference between 1 bottle cap worth of plastic in kilometers of open ocean and kilograms of plastic in a few square meters.

It lets you quantify the problem, and actually measure the severity, knowing where it is a problem and if it gets worse over time.




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