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The reason why they are there because there were no installable apps at that time.

So now that there are installable apps, they can be removed, right? No they can't.



They can't be removed because there is no way to get them back. (They are not available in the App Store.)

Yes, this could (and should) be fixed. And someday, perhaps, it will be. For now, it's just not a serious problem, outside of Hacker News.

Having three different IM clients on a phone pre-installed and unremovable? Yeah, that's the kind of shit Apple doesn't do.


Having three different IM clients on a phone pre-installed and unremovable? Yeah, that's the kind of shit Apple doesn't do.

Because Apple wants you to use SMS instead of IM, making the carriers a boatload of money for no reason.

That is exactly the kind of shit Apple does.


It's not Apple that wants you to use SMS - it's EVERYONE.

I bought my first mobile over twelve years ago because of SMS, not voice, as it replaced the pagers that me and my friends had.


God no it's not.

Apple's SMS implementation/interface is terrible. Group Messaging is just broken.




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