It would be one thing if the covid vaccine actually worked well, but it doesn't. It kind of works, but not especially well.
Even worse is people who actually got covid, yet they want them to get a vaccine, which is rather pointless for them. Places with that particular policy demonstrate they don't care about science, they care about obedience to authority.
It works well enough that the unvaccinated are grossly over-represented in the ICUs and in the death stats. You have to be particularly math illiterate to not recognize that the vaccine does, in fact, work.
For elderly people, sure. For younger? Not so much. It's not helping them very much. I'm not saying it's nothing, but it's not necessary to require it to work as a nurse.
The worst part, of course, is the short time that it works. I've seen places where if you got vaccinated 2 years ago, you are golden. Had covid a month ago? A pariah. That is not based on good science, that's just obedience.
> Throughout the periods of Delta and Omicron predominance, hospitalization rates remained lower among fully vaccinated adolescents aged 12–17 years than among unvaccinated adolescents.
> Over the past month, half of the children admitted to Advocate Aurora hospitals with COVID-19 were under the age of 5 years old … 25 percent of pediatric COVID-19 patients at Advocate hospitals are requiring care in the intensive care unit … “And I would say almost 100 percent of our patients in the ICU are unvaccinated”
You are misreading that study: Only 25% (299/1222) of the children and teens in the study were vaccinated, and yet only 7 deaths over 4 months in 23 states.
The conclusion is that the vaccine can work, and yet be unnecessary. Even with 75% unvaccinated, there were barely any deaths.
Kids simply do not need the vaccine.
Pay attention to how every one of the articles you linked simply glosses over the tiny number of patients admitted to hospital. Just because something works does not mean it's necessary.
And it's quite distressing to see how any criticism of vaccine policy is labeled as "lies and disinformation". Would you like to burn a witch next?
It's OK for someone to disagree with you, without you accusing them of lying.
And as I have found typical in these types of debates is the completely blind spot toward natural immunity. For some reason vaccine "pushers" seem to ignore that it even exists.
Tell me: Who is better protected, someone who was fully vaccinated 2 years ago, or someone who never was vaccinated, but recovered from covid 1 month ago?
> Almost All Teens in ICU With COVID Were Unvaccinated: Study
> Third of teens hospitalized for COVID-19 need ICU care; CDC chief urges youth to get vaccinated
> Throughout the periods of Delta and Omicron predominance, hospitalization rates remained lower among fully vaccinated adolescents aged 12–17 years than among unvaccinated adolescents.
On this site many people can read scientific studies. Having a medical degree means you can apply to practice medicine for money. Forming opinions based on fact never required one.
You can read studies and form opinions all you want. I do the same. But the post I replied to offered unsolicited medical advice that blatantly contradicts the currently-available information from public health authorities. ("It would be one thing if the covid vaccine actually worked well, but it doesn't. It kind of works, but not especially well. Even worse is people who actually got covid, yet they want them to get a vaccine, which is rather pointless for them.")
When you start to post bullshit online, that's when people -- very legitimately -- may choose to challenge your credentials. In fact, people should challenge your credentials in such cases. It doesn't happen anywhere near often enough, and that's a problem.
If you disagree, then you're part of the same problem. Reconsider your position.
You perhaps don't realize that having an MD degree does not make you qualified to speak about this. Very few practicing Doctors analyze this kind of data.
The researchers who are qualified (and who I am getting my info from) don't have MD's, they have PhD's though. Nothing I'm saying is controversial you know.
i.e. having or not having an MD degree has little to do with vaccine knowledge.
Nothing wrong with PhD’s in medieval dance theory, but they’re not adequate for epidemiology. And what you are saying is not in line with what epidemiologists seem to be saying.
Even worse is people who actually got covid, yet they want them to get a vaccine, which is rather pointless for them. Places with that particular policy demonstrate they don't care about science, they care about obedience to authority.