Just a note to check if there are any like-minded people:
Everytime I approach Reddit, I got a feeling of being overwhelmed by the interface complexity, to the point that a part of me wants to know more and finally get to use it, and another part, simply feels frustrated. The latter has always won so far, even after forcing me to create an account.
It just doesn't click with me. And I don't want to read no freaking 101 guide, because a clearly done interface needs no guide.
Is there a particular piece that you find confusing? I've never had any trouble, and it never really occurred to me that other people might. Upvote, downvote, click reply to reply to a comment. Scroll down to see more. You can pretty much ignore everything else if you want to.
For first: all those categories at the top of the page: who creates them? Are they the most active or are just random or arbitrarily selected?
I go to https://www.reddit.com/subreddits/ and I see I am automatically subscribed to some sub-reddits and I'm offered the chance to unsubscribe?
Why!? When did I subscribe? I don't even have an acocount! What the hell are sub reddits anyway?
Then I look to the right and I see: "multireddit of your subscription" ? (my language)
Ok... I scroll down to half of the page, and among all the headers for news there is one in bold. Just one. It titles "A subreddit for rage comics and other memes with a girly slant." It has 97.597 subscribers. But the item just before it has 234.297 subscribers. And it's not bold. That was the only bold one in the page. Why.
Let's pick a random subreddit (if they are what I think they are) let's click on https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/ Ok is this a subreddit? How do I know ? Does this gather pics from all the sub reddits, or it just that single place where you go posting pics? Is this some sort of chan-like area then? Why can't I find answers to all these questions just by looking at the screen!??
Ok, anyway I notice that now we have an "r" in the URL which stands for? Let's have a guess: Reddit. But it only appears in sub-reddits. Fine. !!!!!!!!!... Ok let's calm down and not be too picky here... Uhm.. let's see.. I might want to post a pic. I look to the right, there is a ridiculous amount of small sized lines of text about posting rules. Ok, well can't you just say "hey anything depicting violence, abuse, blablabla - same old stuff - is not allowed here?" Ok, let's leave it for later, let's just see what people is posting. ...I understand that I am on "popular" selection right now, let's go to "ALL". No wait, that is not a switch for selecting that. What is it then? I click it, I get the same thing, and I am not offered any option to see what I might alternatively get.
Ok let's click one of those categories up above. Let's pick "AskScience". Ok new graphic. Am I still on Reddit? Yes. But.. there are different rules to the right? What the? ..Moderators? Is this a forum?
And.. after it's going on like this for a while a voice starts screaming into my head: "WHY DOES IT NEED TO BE SO COMPLICATED ????" And I usually end up with the feeling that I am browsing a virtual giant mall which tries to make everyone happy at the same time. And then I leave.
If you're logged in, I think the ones at the top are the ones you're subscribed to. If you're not logged in, they might just be randomly selected popular ones? I honestly have no idea, I never look at it.
Everyone is automatically subscribed to the same default subreddits when they make an account. If you weren't subscribed to anything there would be nothing on your front page. The alternative to automatically doing this would be what Twitter does when you create an account, where they show you a bunch of users and ask you to follow a few. I prefer Reddit's approach of just signing you up for stuff that most people seem to like.
I would just ignore multireddits. They aren't particularly useful and you won't see them very much if you don't use them. In fact I've never even visited https://www.reddit.com/subreddits/, and I've had an account for 3 years. I don't even know how you got there from the front page.
No idea why only some are in bold, I guess the mods of each subreddit had the option of including bold text when they wrote the summary, and most decided not to.
Yes, https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/ is a subreddit. It is a single place where you can submit pictures. It is somewhat similar to a chan-like area in that /r/Games is where you go to talk about games, /r/news is where you talk about news, etc. Why can't you find answers by looking at the screen? I mean it says right on the side: "A place to share photographs and pictures." There is an about page (https://www.reddit.com/about) and a help page (https://www.reddit.com/wiki/index) that explains subreddits, but I think most people tend to figure it out on their own.
Yeah, /r/ means a subreddit, /u/ means a user. I don't really know why you're concerned with the URL though, you can get around easily by clicking links and ignoring URLs, like with most websites.
"ALL" is not all posts in /r/pics, it's all posts in all of Reddit. As you can see in the top right: "/r/all displays content from all of reddit, including subreddits you aren't subscribed to. Some subreddits have chosen to exclude themselves from /r/all." It probably looked the same as /r/pics because the most popular Reddit posts are pictures.
Yes, subreddits are forums. I guess there are a lot of rules for posting, but you can easily get a feel for the site without reading any rules by just looking at the content before you post anything.
I think maybe you're focusing too much on trying to understand every detail before you look at the content? When you click on "AskScience" don't read through all the rules, just look at the page. Oh look, a question about how schizophrenia drugs work, that's interesting, I'll click on that. And there's a bunch of comments discussing it. You click on "pics", oh cool, a picture of a protest in Hungary, I'll click on the comments to see what people have to say about it.
Wikipedia has a million rules about editing and maintaining and vandalizing and whatnot, but you don't have to read a single one to enjoy the content. Just look at the front page and click on stuff that is interesting. If you find that the front page has too many funny pictures and not enough science articles for your tastes, then start using subreddits. Unsubscribe from /r/funny and subscribe to /r/chemistry and /r/biology or something. If you're just in the mood for history, go to /r/history and look at that front page. Same as with a news site, if you just want to read world news then you click on the world section. If you want all news then you stay on the front page.
I appreciate the time you took to write this. Of course I could figure out every single feature if I spent a T time on it. And of course sometimes I've just used the focus-on-content-only approach. But, my point is that when I look at it, it just seems too much over-engineered. Maybe UI-wise only? Maybe feature wise too? I don't know! And if I had to know, it meant that I had to go through it, which is exactly what I don't want to be required to when getting accustomed with an environment!
Ask yourself, if you were to implement a new Reddit, would you make it like it is now?
I would simplify it a lot.
Maybe it's not the perfect example but for a complexity-wise comparison, consider StackOverflow. It is complex and it covers a lot of tiny details. Sometimes I'm just really amazed at how well every little single feature is designed. But it never gets in your way. Every "hey-you-should-know-this" only comes up when really necessary, making a new user's familiarization process a very progressive experience.
If both those sites were Swiss Army knives, to me Reddit would present itself with all of its non-standard weird mini-tools opened up, to the point where while I'd be looking for the one I need, I would be asking myself "why I'm being told that I need this or that ?", while StackOverflow would show up with all tools closed, and would still impress me at letting me find exactly what I need when I need it, and sometimes would even surprise me, showing up a pleasantly and unexpected augmentated version of that...
Could part of the problem be that each subreddit can set its own CSS? You can disable this (once you have an account) by unticking Preferences > allow subreddits to show me custom styles
Everytime I approach Reddit, I got a feeling of being overwhelmed by the interface complexity, to the point that a part of me wants to know more and finally get to use it, and another part, simply feels frustrated. The latter has always won so far, even after forcing me to create an account.
It just doesn't click with me. And I don't want to read no freaking 101 guide, because a clearly done interface needs no guide.
Anyone feels like that?